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Contents
- Welcome
- Sympa Terminology
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Web Interface Overview
- Main Menu Items
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User Menus
- Login/User Information
- Your Lists
- List Overview
- List Operations
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Frequently Asked Questions
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General Questions
- How do I create a new mailing list?
- How do I search a list's archives?
- I changed my preferred email address and now I can't see any of my lists. Why not?
- What commands are available for the email interface?
- Why can't I post to a subscribers-only list to which I'm subscribed?
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List Owner Questions
- What's the best way to add subscribers to my new list?
- How do I add or remove a list Owner?
- How do I add or remove a Moderator/Editor?
- How do I add a bunch of subscribers at once?
- How do I change the list's info file?
- List Moderator Questions
- List Subscriber Questions
- Other Sites and Links
Welcome
The Sympa mailing list manager has a web interface called WWSympa, providing you access
to the mailing lists and your subscriptions.
Using WWSympa, you can search for and view various mailing lists, manage the lists you're
subscribed to, manage lists you own or are a moderator of, and a small host of other functions.
These help documents are intended to provide you with general instructions and direction in
finding your way through the complex and powerful capabilities that the WWSympa web interface
offers you. If you have any questions or concerns, including any comments (both constructive
and critical) about the help files or web interface, please submit a request us via an email to
support@godzone.net.nz.
Sympa Terminology
Here are some commonly used terms in Sympa, WWSympa, and mailing lists in general along with
their definitions.
- Sympa
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Sympa is a piece of software called a mailing list
manager. It provides a mailing list service on a host, allowing groups of people to communicate
with one another via email without having to know who all the members of the group are and
all their individual addresses.
- WWSympa
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Sympa's web interface is referred to as WWSympa, though sometimes the term "Sympa" can
refer to both the web interface and the rest of the Sympa software running behind the scenes
together. WWSympa provides you with a clean, easy to use interface with which you can manage
your lists and subscriptions.
- Mailing List
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A mailing list, often referred to with the shorthand "list," is a means of sending
electronic mail to many different addresses at once. The sender does not need to know the
addresses of everyone on the list in order to ensure that the mail gets to all of them.
Of course, regular electronic mail may be sent to multiple addresses. However, a mailing
list is superior to this approach in several ways. In the multiple-address approach, each
person who wants to send to the entire list must know all of the addresses on the list.
Since there is a need for the list of addresses to be kept in many places, it may be difficult
to keep all of the lists the same. For example, suppose that Alex, Betty, Charlie, and Darlene
write mail to each other regularly. Later, if they wish to include Earnest in their group,
then each of the first four must know that Earnest has been added and they must all know his
email address.
When you send mail to a mailing list, you address the mail to the mailing list's name.
When the mailing list server receives the message, it expands the name of the mailing list
into each of the individual addresses currently on the list and it redirects your message
to each of those people, called subscribers. Then, should the membership of the list change,
there is only one file containing the addresses of the subscribers which must be updated.
Mailing lists can alternately be referred to by their name or their address; a list's name
is everything before the @ sign in its address.
- Listmaster
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The listmasters are the system administrators who actually manage and maintain the Sympa
system. A listmaster is the one who installed the Sympa software running on this host and
is the one responsible for its functionality, as well as any site-specific modifications
that have been made to better suit the needs of this site's users.
If you need to reach the listmasters, please submit a request via an email to
support@godzone.net.nz.
- List Owner and Privileged Owner
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Often referred to as simply an "owner," a list Owner is a person who has nearly full
control over a list. They are the list's stewards, bouncers, mothers or fathers, and
benevolent dictators. They handle all subscription and unsubscription requests, along with
managing the list's settings and permisssions. They do not have absolute control over the
list, however, as that privilege is reserved for Privileged Owners. For most
purposes the two are the same, however a Privileged Owner has some additional privileges
beyond regular Owners, including:
- The ability to add and delete other, non-Privileged list Owners
- The ability to add and delete list Moderators/Editors
- The rights to change settings related to the shared document library
- The rights to change who can view the list's subscribers
- The rights to change who can send email to the list
- View some information about the list's creation or status
Note: A list owner, privileged or otherwise, does not necessarily
need to be subscribed to a list. ownership and subscription are separate things, and if
you are a list's owner you may wish to subscribe yourself to it or you will not see
any of the messages which get sent to the list.
Also note: All list owners are automatically subscribed to the
sympa-announce mailing list. This is
so that we can keep list owners up-to-date with any Sympa issues or announcements,
including updates, news, outage notifications, etc.
To reach a list's owners, send an email to LISTNAME-request@godzone.net.nz,
replacing LISTNAME with the list's actual name (e.g. to reach the owners of the
biglist@godzone.net.nz mailing list, send an email to biglist-request@godzone.net.nz).
- Moderator
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Used interchangably with the term "editor," a list moderator is someone whose job
it is to approve or decline messages sent to moderated lists.
Often a list will be set to only allow specific people to post and require everyone
else to be moderated, or it will simply require everyone's posts to be moderated. This
means when a user sends a message to the list it doesn't go out to the list's subscribers
straight away. Instead, it enters a holding queue and a moderator is notified. They then
view the message, determine if its content is appropriate to the list, and either approve
it or deny it based on that decision. On high-volume lists, several moderators may be in
place to help lighten each one's individual load.
Note: Like ownership, being a moderator does not necessarily mean you're
a subscriber. If you are a list moderator and you wish to see postings to the list then you
must explicitly subscribe yourself to the list, or have a list owner do it for you.
To contact a list's moderators, send an email to LISTNAME-editor@godzone.net.nz,
replacing LISTNAME with the actual list's name (e.g. to reach the moderators of the
biglist@godzone.net.nz mailing list, send an email to biglist-editor@godzone.net.nz).
- Subscriber
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A list's subscribers are all the people who are on the list and likely should
receive a message that gets sent to the list; in practice this is not always the case
as some users' addresses are invalid, or the list may be moderated and thus the message
won't go straight to the list, or they may have their preferences set to not receive mail
from a given list. Subscribers make up the bulk of users of a system, and as each list has
many subscribers each subscriber can be on many lists. Some lists are set up such that
anyone who's interested can look at the list's homepage and click a link to become a subscriber,
whereas others require the owner's approval before being allowed on the list, and still
others have different ways for getting their bundle of subscribers.
Some lists will also let anyone post, and some are set to only allow subscribers to post,
regardless of whether the list is moderated or not.
To contact the subscribers for a list, assuming you are allowed to do so, simply send a message
to LISTNAME@godzone.net.nz, replacing LISTNAME with the actual name of the
list (e.g. to send mail to the biglist@godzone.net.nz list, address a message
to biglist@godzone.net.nz).
- Digest
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Normally a mailing list will send all messages to its subscribers as it receives them,
and users will then receive the individual messages at various times throughout the day.
For some users, or in some cases, this is less than desirable — it can interrupt your
workflow, can cause you to get far more email than you'd like, and can just generally be
annoying. Some people prefer to get their messages in what's called a digest, where the
mailing list gathers up all the messages over a span of time (usually one day) and then sends
them out as a single bundle to subscribers who've elected to only receive digests. This allows
them to read through the mail (or ignore it entirely) at a more leisurely pace.
Sympa supports two types of digests: multi-part MIME digests and regular plain-text digests.
For most people the former will work, where Sympa sends you a digest made of multiple messages
in a specialized mail format called MIME, but older email clients may not support that and for
those users we recommend the plain-text digest, where Sympa just compiles all the messages
in the digest into one text message and sends that out.
- List Info File
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Each list has an "info file," which contains basic information about the list. This file
is sent to people on request, as well as in the welcome message sent out to new subscribers.
The list owner controls its content.
Generally a list owner will want to include such information in the info file as what the
list is for and what it's about, appropriate posting guidelines and restrictions, information
on who the owners are, etc. Basically anything that you'd want a new subscriber to know.
List owners can change the list's info file via the following menu choices in the List
Operations menu: List Administration → Edit Message Templates → choose
"list description" in the drop-down menu and click the Edit File button.
- List Subject
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Not to be confused with the subject of a message sent to the list, the list's subject is
a brief, one-line description about the list. Basically, it should describe the list as best
it can in one sentence.
List owners can change the list's subject by choosing the following menu items in the List
Operations menu: List Administration → Edit List Configuration → List Definition.
- Shared Document Library
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Some lists have a shared document library, where list members or owners (depending on the
list's configuration) can post files for other list members. This is far better than simply
sending out an attachment to the list for many reasons, including that it doesn't use
exponentially more space on the mail server for each copy of the attachment, it doesn't trigger
any message size limits on mail servers, and users can access it any time they want, even if
they weren't on the list when it was originally sent out.
Web Interface Overview
WWSympa uses a common look across all its pages, so familiarizing yourself with the general
layout of the system will allow you to more easily use all of its functions.
Main Menu Items
Along the top right of the page, is the main WWSympa menu. It contains
the following links:
- Home
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This link will take you to the main page.
On the main page, you'll see a welcome and overview message, along with a list of the
categories of mailing lists available on the system. Each list is organized into one or
more categories, and you can browse for lists which might interest you through these links.
You may also search for a list by name.
- Index of Lists
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This link will take you to a listing of all the publicly viewable lists that are hosted
at this site. Note that if a list of yours is not displayed and you'd like it to be, odds are
that it's set to be a hidden or concealed list. Check the list options help for more information.
- Help
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This link takes you to the page you're currently reading, with help information that
applies to the entire WWSympa site and the Sympa mailing list manager in general.
User Menus
Along the left side of the page are the user menus, the precise contents of which change based
on what you're currently looking at or doing in WWSympa.
- Login/User Information
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Starting at the top is the login or user menu; if you're not logged in you'll see a place
to input your email address and password, along with links to either send yourself a reminder
of your password or create a new account so you can login and manage your subscriptions.
If you are logged in, you'll see the email address of the account with which you're logged in,
which is where mail will be sent when you subscribe to a list, a link allowing you to manage
your Preferences and a link letting you logout. You may also see, when looking at a list, your
role listed just below your email address — this describes your current role with regard
to the list you're looking at and thus what privileges and access levels you'll have.
- Your Lists
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Beneath the user or login menu is the "Your Lists" menu. Here are all the lists to which
you're subscribed or of which you are an owner.
For each list which you either subscribe to or own an entry will be shown here with a link
to take you to the list's homepage; if you are a list owner then you'll also have a link
called "Owner" that will take you to the list's administration page. Note:
because of the separation between being a list owner and being a subscriber, if you're an owner
you'll see the list here regardless of whether or not you're subscribed to it. Check the list's
subscribers to see if you're on it to find out if you're subscribed, if you're unsure.
- List Overview
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If you're looking at a list's page, include its homepage, then the Your Lists menu will be
replaced with one giving you an overview of the list's basic information, including:
- List Name
- This is the list's name, which also happens to be the left-hand side (everything before
the @) of its address.
- List Address
- The list's address. Sending an email to this address will, depending on the list's
configuration, send it to everyone on the list.
- List Subject
- The brief, one-line description of what the list is about. The list's purpose
summarized into one or two sentences.
- Subscribers
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How many subscribers are on the list. If you're one of the list's owners then you'll also
see how many of those addresses are bouncing or refusing mail.
If the list is configured to allow you to see who all the subscribers are then the word
"Subscribers" in this menu item will be a link to the page where you can browse or search
for subscribers of the list.
- Owners
- This shows you who the owner or owners of the list are. The "Owners" menu entry itself
is also a link you can click to send an email to the list owners using your default mail client.
- Moderators
- This shows you who the list's moderators are.
- List Operations
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If you're looking at one of a list's pages, including its homepage, then you will see the
List Operations menu. Its options allow you to view the list's homepage, subscribe to or
unsubscribe from the list, change your subscription options if you are a subscriber, access
the list's archives or shared documents, and a few other choices. More information about
these menu options follows:
- List Home
- Takes you to the list's homepage.
- List Administration
- Shown only to list owners, this link will take you to the list administration section
where you can change various parameters of the list's configuration, alter and update
different list templates, manage subscribers, and perform other functions related to
managing the list.
- List Moderation
- Shown only to list moderators and owners, beneath it are three sub-items allowing a
list moderator or owner to access currently pending message, document, or subscription
requests.
- Subscribe
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If you're not already subscribed to the list, this link will either add you as a
subscriber (if the list is set to allow anyone to subscribe) or dispatch a request
to the list owners asking them to either approve or decline your subscription.
If there is no Subscribe link shown in the List Operations menu then it means
subscription to this list is closed and you can only be added by the owner manually
adding you.
- Subscription Options
- If you are a subscriber then the Subscribe link will be replaced with Subscription
Options where you can change some aspects of your subscription to the list.
- Unsubscribe
- If you're subscribed to a list you'll have this link in your List Operations menu.
You may use it to unsubscribe from the list.
- Contact Owners
- This link will open a new email to the list owners in your default mail client.
- Post to List
- If you are allowed to post messages to the list then this link will take you to a
page where you can compose an email to be sent to the list.
- List Archives
- If the list has archives of messages that have been sent to it and you have the
appropriate privileges to view the archives then this link will take you to a
page where you can browse through or search the list's archives.
- Shared Documents
- If the list has a shared document library and you have access to it you'll see a
link here which will take you to the file browser.
Frequently Asked Questions
Here are various frequently asked questions or commonly seen problems that people have
about or with Sympa and WWSympa. If you have any questions not covered here, please let the
Sympa Listmasters know.
General Questions
- How do I create a new mailing list?
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New lists can only be created by the list manager for each domain.
- How do I search a list's archives?
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When you're viewing a page for a list, and assuming the list has archives and the
owner has it set to allow you to access them, you'll see a link in the "List Operations"
section along the left hand side to access the "List Archives."
On the list's archive page, you'll see a simple search box in the upper
right corner of the page. Input the text you want to search for and click the "Search" button.
For more advanced searches, click the "Advanced Search" button beneath
the search text input field.
- What commands are available for the email interface?
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You can run some commands and operations with Sympa through the “email interface.”
By sending a message to sympa@godzone.net.nz with
nothing in the body but the word HELP you'll be sent a help guide that covers how
to run commands via email.
Please make sure you're either sending out plain-text messages, or are including minimal
formatting (no special fonts or colors and no images) in any rich-text messages.
- Why can't I post to a subscribers-only list to which I'm subscribed?
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If your postings are being rejected by the list and returned to you, it's highly
likely that you're posting using an address that's not on the list. Mail clients like
Notes, Outlook, Thunderbird, or Mac OS X's Mail can be configureed to report a “From:”
address — usually it's the address associated with the account, but some mail clients
allow you to set up multiple or alternate “From:” addreses for one account. When you
send mail using the client, it reports the message as being from the account's “From:” address.
This is what Sympa checks to determine whether or not you're allowed to post to a list,
for most lists configured to only allow subscribers or any other select group of people to post.
Precise instructions for how to check or change your “From:” address are beyond the
scope of this document.
List Owner Questions
- What's the best way to add subscribers to my new list?
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Once your list has been approved, you're left with the task of filling it with the
right people. Under older systems like Majordomo, you'd simply add a bunch of email addresses
to the list and hope that they were valid and correct. With Sympa, the best way to invite users
to join a list is to do just that — invite them. There are two ways to do this.
You can either use the email interface and send an
email to sympa@godzone.net.nz with the following
in the body of the message:
INVITE LISTNAME EMAIL
Replace LISTNAME with the mailing list's name and EMAIL with the user's
email address in the above. You may repeat that line for multiple users, substituting a
different EMAIL for each user. Alternatively, you can simply send out a normal
email using whatever email client you prefer to your intended subscribers, inviting them
to visit a URL similar to the following:
http://lists.godzone.net.nz/sympa/subscribe/LISTNAME
Replace LISTNAME in the above with the actual mailing list's name. When users
visit that link they'll be asked to log in with an email address. Once they've logged in,
their subscription request is submitted and either automatically approved or submitted to
the list owners for approval, depending on that specific list's configuration.
Using these methods to add users to a list, rather than inputting many addresses, means
that they're able to subscribe with their primary email address, thus making it easier for
them to use the Sympa system and to change where their mail is routed in the future.
Note: Users may have additional problems with their email client not
being configured to properly report the address that Sympa recognizes as theirs, and thus rejecting their messages to the list. Please refer them to this FAQ entry on posting and “From:” addresses for more information.
- How do I add or remove a list owner?
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At the present time the only way to add an owner to your list is to send an email to sympa-request@duke.edu and ask the Listmasters to add or remove them; please provide the name and email address(es) of the owners and whether you'd like us to add or remove them, in that message.
Note: Policy dictates that only members of the Duke community (faculty, staff, students, etc.) may be Privileged Owners of lists. This is to maintain a degree of verifiability when it comes to tracking down who is actually responsible for the list, its members, and contents.
- How do I add or remove a moderator/editor?
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Adding or removing a list moderator requires you be the owner of the list. From
the list's home page, click “List Administration” in the “List Operations” menu section,
along the left side of the page. Then click “Edit List Configuration,” and finally
click “List Definition.”
Scrolling down, you should see a section beginning with “Moderators.” Here are all
the moderators of the list, along with an empty set of entry fields with which you can
add new ones. To add a new moderator, simply fill out the empty fields before
“Moderators defined in an external datasource” section. Only the email address is
required, though you may want to put their name in so that users see it instead of
their address. The “private information” field is for whatever information you'd
like to put in there, such as a telephone number, and is only visible to other list
owners. Removing a moderator is simply a matter of deleting their email address, name,
and private information.
Once you've made your changes, scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the
“Update List Configuration” button to save the new settings.
- How do I add a bunch of subscribers at once?
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If you've got a list of subscribers' addresses and you'd like to add them all in
one go, that's a fairly simple process. Assuming you've got the appropriate privileges
to add subscribers to a list and you're looking at any of the list's pages, including
its homepage, simply click the "Subscribers" link in the "List Overview" menu section
along the left side of the page. From the "Manage Subscribers" page, click the "Bulk
Add Addresses" link.
On the "Bulk Add Addresses" page you'll see a text box with some example addresses
and names in it. Replace the contents of this text box with the addresses, one per line,
of the users you wish to subscribe to the list. You may follow an address with a space
and the user's real name if you so choose. When you're done, you may check the "Don't
send welcome message" option to prevent sending the new subscribers any notification
or welcome message when they're added to the list; while users generally prefer to
receive the welcome message, in some cases it may not be desirable such as if you're
migrating users from an old list. Then simply click the "Add Subscribers" button and
you're all set.
- How do I change the list's info file?
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Only a list's owner may change the info fileFrom the list's homepage (or any page
for the list, really), click "List Administration" in the "List Options" section, along
the left side of the page. From there, click "Edit Message Templates." From the drop-down
menu select "list description" and click the "Edit File" button.
You'll be presented with the file editor, where you can make the changes to the description.
When you're done click the "Save Changes" button to commit the changes you've made, or if
you'd like to revert the file to the way it was when you began editing it.
Other Sites and Links
Some sites related to this one, which you may find helpful and informative.
- Main Sympa Site
- The source for all things Sympa.
- Sympa Mailing Lists
- The Sympa team maintains and runs a few mailing lists related to Sympa and its
development. The one which is likely to be most interesting to a user of a Sympa
system would be the sympa-users
list.
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